Interview with Cathy Breen

Iraq’s Refugee Crisis

April 19, 2008

 With the passing of the 5th anniversary of the beginning of the war and subsequent occupation of Iraq little has been said about the toll the war has taken on the Iraqi people.  According to the group, Just Foreign Policy (justforeignpolicy.org), the estimated Iraqi deaths as a result of the U.S. occupation is 1,200,000 and counting and is 10 times higher than that reported in the American media.  The UNHCR's (United Nations High Commission on Refugees) most recent statistics on Iraqi refugees estimates that "4.7 million Iraqis have left their homes.  More than 2.7 million Iraqis are displaced internally, while more than 2 million have fled mainly to neighboring Syria and Jordan."

In March of this year, as the anniversary of the Iraq war approached, the Parishioners for Peace and Justice at St. Peter Claver, RC Church in Montclair, N.J. and New Jersey Peace Action sponsored a talk by Cathy Breen.  Cathy, a nurse by profession and long time member of the Catholic Worker movement in New York has been dedicated to the cause of the Iraqi people caught in the quagmire of the U.S.-led war and occupation of Iraq.  Cathy has stood alongside the Iraqi people, witnessing their daily struggles prior to and during the war and now in Jordan as refugees.

A few weeks after Cathy's talk I sat down with her in an attempt to chronicle some of her journey over the last five years to bring the plight of the Iraqi people to the American public.  The following account is just some of the topics we touched on.

KL:  Cathy, you traveled in Iraq before, during and after the war.  How was each trip different for you as an American?

CB:  When I traveled to Iraq I was always conscious that I was from the United States.  Before the war began in March of 2003, I remember being stopped by an Iraqi woman on the street.  She asked me "Are you going to bomb us?...Take our oil, but don't bomb our children!"  During these times the streets of Iraq, still under Saddam Hussein's regime, were safe to walk.

During the "Shock and Awe" campaign it was actually easier for me to be in Baghdad, under the bombs, than it would have been for me to be on the streets of my own country during the bombing campaign, the country dropping the bombs.  I remember during the bombing visiting the site of a U.S. missile, a residential area where the day before a cluster bomb had exploded hitting 7 homes and killing three young boys, 7, 13 and l8 years of age.  As I walked through the debris and held ugly twisted pieces of metal fragments I had to listen to the sounds of people crying and keening their dead.  The sounds of their mournful grieving hounded me for months afterward, and I came away with the ID piece of that bomb inscribed "JX2N8902, Made in the USA."  I carry this piece with me in my change purse and sometimes pass it around when I speak to groups about the consequences of war.

In August of 2003 I traveled back to Iraq and stayed for about three months.  It was in October of that time that a young Iraqi journalist friend, he had been to a press conference held by Paul Bremer, visited us at the apartment we were renting.  One of his questions focused on George Bush's statement that the United States was bringing democracy to the Middle East.  "What if the primarily Muslim Middle East, and specifically Iraq in its constitution, chose Islamic 'rules.' Would the United States allow this?" he had asked.  He likened the Governing Council to the former Baath party system where people were given no options.  "The only change we have experienced is this," he said.  "America has taken the cotton out of our mouths that Saddam put there.  But they [the Americans] have put it in their ears!"

Today, five years into the occupation, we are still unable to listen.  Now when I travel back to the Middle East I am even more conscious of being an American.  Whenever I am asked by someone where I am from, I find myself bowing my head in shame as I acknowledge that I am from the United States. 

KL:  Cathy, while many peace groups across the country have focused on ending the war and bringing the troops home you have chosen to focus on the plight of the Iraqi refugees.  Why?

 CB:  When I first traveled to Iraq I was with a small peace team now known as Voices in the Wilderness.  Since January of 2004 we felt that it was no longer wise to travel to central or southern Iraq as our presence would put any Iraqi associated with us in mortal danger.  Since that time I began to focus on the situation of Iraqis who have fled their country due to violence.  I was able to spend six months in 2006 and another six months in 2007, in Jordan primarily.  Living alongside of Iraqi refugees has allowed me to witness their everyday struggles, fears and concerns.  Their children have become my children as it were.  I believe wholeheartedly that peacemakers need to be throughout the Middle East witnessing what is happening there as well as to take another face of our country to the region.

 KL:  There are now more than 4.5 million displaced Iraqi refugees both within and without the country of Iraq, especially in Jordan and Syria.  What is driving the exodus? 

 CB:  We can't understand the exodus unless we understand the scope of violence that Iraqis are suffering.  People are no longer safe in their own neighborhoods.  They have been subject as we know to kidnappings, assassinations, suicide bombs, militia attacks as well as US air strikes, raids and detentions.  If someone is thought to have money because of their status or profession, they are kidnapped for a ransom.  So they flee.

 KL: What has been the effect on host countries, particularly Jordan where you have been living?

 CB:  Jordan, with a population of about 5 1/2 million, has the largest per capital refugee population in the world.  The country's infrastructure is staggering under the weight of an estimated 750,000 Iraqis who have fled there, with their own high unemployment rate, a grave water shortage (the 10th worst in the world) and rising fuel costs (they used to get fuel for free under Saddam).   The vast majority of Iraqis in Jordan do not have residency and have overstayed their visas.  Neither Jordan nor Syria is a resettlement option for Iraqi refugees.  They are in hiding as it were and outside of the law.  They are not in tents but rather urban refugees who must pay rent, electricity, water and fuel like everyone else.  Unable to work to support their families, they are also subject to deportation if caught working.   One of the results of this desperate situation is that oftentimes their children are working. 

 KL: Iraqis are a proud, highly educated and resilient people.  How have these qualities affected their Diaspora and the region as a whole?

 CB:  I want to reiterate that we don't see tent camps like in other refugee crises.  Iraqis are "urban" refugees who rent rooms and apartments.  Without residency and legal status however, they are not allowed to work.   While they live side by side with citizens of Jordan and Syria, they are fearful to go more than a few blocks from their apartments for fear of pick up.  Having long overstayed their visas and unable to pay the fines, they are subject to deportation back to Iraq.

 Many Iraqis who have fled since 2003 are from the middle class, people uprooted from their jobs and professions as engineers, scientists, professors, doctors, architects, writers, or in technical or managerial positions.  Contrary to global consciousness which I believe views Iraqis in countries like Jordan and Syria as living in relative safety, their situation has become more and more precarious and desperate as time goes by.  Their money has run out and, unable to work and find gainful employment, they are contemplating or have already returned to Iraq in order to find work.  It is incomprehensible to imagine people who have fled for their lives having to return back into the flaming furnace!

 I know of no other culture which values education so highly, and can testify to families who have defied death threats within Iraq and stayed in their homes another two weeks or a month before fleeing for safety—so their children could finish out the school term!   In Jordan I know children as young as ten years of age working for 1 dinar a day (approx. $1.40).  I have felt the shame of parents who have to watch as their children go off to work.  Not having their children in school is like rubbing salt into an already infected wound.

 KL: A year ago, April 2007, the U.S. State Department had said that it could take up to 25,000 Iraq refugees for the year—more than three times what it had originally agreed to take-7,000.  Sadly, the total for FY 2007 only amounted to 1,608.  For FY 2008 which began in October 2007 the goal is 12,000.  Six months into the year, only 2,627 have been accepted when it should be 6,000 by now.  What is the hold up?

 CB:  The UNHCR has registered thousands of Iraqis, recognizing them as vulnerable cases, and referred them to the U.S. and other countries for resettlement.  For example, their work as translators for the U.S. military or corporations have put them and their families at risk.  They have undergone extensive and arduous interviews, having to tell their painful stories over and over again.  Over months they have gone "up the ladder" so to speak and their hopes have been raised for resettlement.  Finally they reach the one final decisive meeting with an official from the Homeland Security team, the interview which will decide their fate.  I have personally interviewed families and individuals who have received a rejection letter, a form letter with the box "credibility" most often checked.  I have seen letters which have not even been dated or signed.  Let me give you an example.

 A father of a family I know was kidnapped in Baghdad as he was returning to his home after work.  He had worked for the U.N. for about seven years.  He was hooded and a gun was repeatedly placed to his head and then removed and fired.  This man refused to give information about his U.N. or U.S. colleagues.   He was stripped, beaten, urinated on and suffered abuse beyond imagination.  He was released for a ransom of $10,000 after promising to pay another $40,000 upon release.  His wife sold her jewelry and borrowed money to get the $10,000.  The couple and their three children fled to Jordan when the kidnappers revisited their home shortly after his release to say they would be back in a few hours to collect the remaining ransom.

 Incredibly, during the interview with DHS, the wife was asked "Why did you pay the ransom?  Why did you support terrorism?"  The father said to me incredulously "Even a child would understand this."

 That paying a ransom for the release of a loved one is basis for rejection by Homeland Security for resettlement to the U.S. can only be viewed as the greatest hypocrisy and final indignation we could inflict on a proud and dignified people.  We have truly reduced them to a beggarly status

 Equally convoluted is our policy with respect to family reunification. Countless Iraqi refugees have family in the U.S., those who received refuge here under Saddam Hussein's regime.  They are now citizens and in a position to support and sponsor their family members in desperate need.  They are prohibited however if the family member is other than a husband/wife or child.  This means that sisters, brothers or cousins for example do not qualify.  I ask you, are these two factors alone not a clear indication that there is no political will in our country to receive Iraqis here in the U.S.?

 KL: There has been news of late that Iraqi's have been returning home.  Can you tell us about that?

 CB:  If I am not mistaken, the media began to play this up in early December of 2007, especially with respect to Iraqis in Syria, attributing the return with the success of the surge.  But alternative media sources, while not entirely ruling out improved security in Baghdad and the desire on the part of some to find out if their homes were inhabited or inhabitable,  indicated that the return was due in large part to expired visas, exhausted finances, fear of detention and/or forced deportation, etc.. Humanitarian organizations, the UNHCR, the Iraqi government and even some US military sources have attested to the tremendous humanitarian crisis that the internally displaced Iraqis are suffering, a crisis that is only aggravated by the influx of Iraqis returning. 

 KL:  How would you like to see the American people respond to this crisis?

 CB:  The words of a long-time peacemaker, poet and mentor to many of us in the peace movement, Fr. Daniel Berrigan, come to mind.  "Everybody doing something."  I think that the greatest challenge we face is to find out what that "something" is, and if we are sleeping peacefully at night then something is amiss.   If we are open to risk and creative measures, then I believe we will find concrete ways to act.  Get involved with Voices for Creative Nonviolence's Occupation project to pressure elected representatives in their respective offices.  Take part in the Iraq Student project to help sponsor an Iraqi student to study here in the states.  Get in touch with the Direct Aid Initiative which responds primarily to one-time medical aid/emergencies.  All of these endeavors can be accessed by googling them on the internet.  Some of us have been trying to raise money to send to families in Jordan and Syria so that they can pay their rent and not have to return to Iraq.  And let us not forget the power of fasting and prayer. 

 KL:  Before we end the conversation, can you talk about something or someone that has left you with hope for the future? 

 CB:  Two stories.  One I have already mentioned earlier.  That of the father who was kidnapped, tortured and fled with his family to Amman, where the wife was asked by Homeland Security "Why did you pay a ransom?  Why were you supporting terrorism?"  I called this family by phone to see if I could bring a Jesuit priest around to meet them.  I realized immediately that I had put this friend in a very awkward position.  "Cathy," he said, "you know that our door is always open to you.  You are like a sister to us."  And then there was an embarrassed pause.  "But what good does it do to tell our story to people in the United States?  What changes in our situation?  It is like we are in the circus."  And then he told me that he had just spoken with is wife about a half-hour prior to my telephoning, and that they decided they would have to return to Baghdad in a couple of months.  "Our money has run out" he said.  "And I cannot beg.  I just cannot beg."  I had brought some envelopes with money and handwritten messages from people and groups in the U.S. for Iraqis in need on that three-month trip in the Fall of 2007.  As my trip was drawing to a close I had only one envelop left.  It was not a lot of money, but it was from a Franciscan priest who was at the time serving a 5-month prison sentence in a California prison for speaking out against torture.   I ended up going alone with the envelope to their apartment and giving it to the family.  The mother and wife broke down in tears, not for the amount which was negligent, but for the gesture--for the outstretched hand.  Is this not a sign of hope?

 The other story is of a young man who was heading in a taxi to his classes at  Baghdad University.  He was in his third year. As they stopped at a checkpoint, a car pulled up alongside of them and exploded.  This young man lost his right leg and received multiple wounds to his right side, some of the shrapnel pieces are still lodged in his body.  I met him in Amman where his father had brought him for an operation in an attempt to save his right eye.  They returned to Baghdad after the operation (about 20% vision remains in the eye).   This young fellow completed his studies as a Civil Engineer in Baghdad in Sept. of 2007.  How can we not draw courage from his example? 

 If you will permit me, I would like to close with some words by Daniel Berrigan.  "Where are the peacemakers, and why do they fail" he was asked.  He replied:  "We have assumed the name of peacemakers, but we have been unwilling to pay any significant price for peace.  We want peace with half a heart…with half a life…and half a will…the war continues because the waging of war is total but the waging of peace is partial."